God punished Adam and Eve for their sin. Evidently, this is what Saul and most of his family was like, except Jonathan. WebSaul slew the Gibeonites, not simply as the son of Kish, but as the king of Israel, and therefore involved all Israel with him in the violation of the national oath; and hence, until the evil should be put away by the execution of the immediate offender or his representatives, all Israel must suffer. They had advance warning. That is that he could have gone along with the Gibeonite's demands in order to get rid of seven possible contenders for his throne. The Gibeonites decided on a different strategy. Over the years I've urged our Fellowship to check out, investigate and take to heart such biblical alarms. We have all followed in the same way of life as our first parents Adam and Eve. The Israelites had taken an oath concerning them, but in his zeal for Israel and Judah, Saul had sought to kill them.) Saul's bones are still in Jabesh-Gilead. Of course, a part of it is being able to look at ourselves and see how dirty, nasty, and rotten we are, and saying, "There is no way that anybody could live in this world without sin; even God's beloved Son.". But, very few people can relate to sinless perfection. It is after Absalom's rebellion. "No, we don't do things like that in Israel. Then, they went after Jericho, and it fell. Things were going wrong. Share He had a body of law that he could have referred back to and come up with a solution. Clarify It is easy to read this story blithely, and to think that David righted some longstanding wrongs that had happened, and then God happily sent rain to the parched land of Israel. The young lions lack and suffer hunger; but those who seek the LORD shall not lack any good thing. We want them to reflect what a real person would do in extreme or extraordinary circumstances. God punished the whole nation for breaking the covenant. They decided to fight with the Gibeonites and teach them a lesson. Throughout the Scriptures warnings of spiritual dangers are signaled by the flash cards of attention getting words like: "Take heed" or "Consider". It has got to go. How many died in bar-fights? Webzeal of king Saul - who was a Benjaminite - against the Gibeonites. So they thought, "Hmm. The Israelites had promised not to The Bible helps us in this way, because it is full of examples of flawed heroes of faith. . If the Gibeonites brought guile and deceit into the land; it was Saul who set the example for deep and devastating King Saul exhibited that hubris, that overweening pride in his own decisions and that unfounded confidence in his own good judgment that he brought certain and lasting disaster upon his own dynasty. This angered God and was only amended years later after sacrificing seven of Sauls sons to the Gibeonites by hanging them before Jehovah at Sauls hometown, Gibeah. After that, Gibeonites were no longer mentioned though there are some writers who believed that they were among the Nethinim, the ones selected to serve the temple. There is nothing to give you any indication that God was involved in anything except the faminetrying to teach David a lesson. . He tried to come up with a compromise, and that was basically, "Whatever you want, you can have." He needed God to forgive him. WebA famine lasting three years hit Israel during the earlier half of David 's reign at Jerusalem. And it very seriously affected his judgment in this matter. Jamieson, Fausset and Brown comments: It was a heathen practice to gibbet men with a view of appeasing the anger of the gods in seasons of famine, and the Gibeonites, who were a remnant of the Amorites, though brought to the knowledge of the true God, were not, it seems, free from this superstition. Justice seems to have been served. Jonathan and Saul led the And these men, they need to be buried. When the Gibeonites heard that the other nations were going to attack them, they sent a message to Joshua and the people, Help! The Bible tells us that after Saul's death God sent a famine into the land mainly to get the attention of Saul's successor, King David. You see, famine on the scale like thisthree yearsis a sign from God that things were not copacetic in the land. Report The breach of contract was serious enough that God sent the famine in response. And it would have been done quickly and easily. Now Rizpah the daughter of Aiah took sackcloth and spread it for herself on the rock, from the beginning of harvest until the late rains poured on them from heaven. The scriptures are not very definitive as to why. When we read the history of skirmishes and battles between the Gibeonites and Israelites we get a So they answered Joshua and said, "Because your servants were clearly told that the LORD your God commanded His servant Moses to give you all the land, and to destroy all the inhabitants of the land from before you.". Most, if not all, of those responsible were dead. We don't hear much of the Gibeonites again until the reign of King Saul. Instead, the Gibeonites demanded the execution of seven of Saul's sons. But what actually did Saul do to the Gibeonites? There is a difference. And, it certainly does not record that David took this to God for His solution to it. But, are these people telling the truth? And the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites. And Samuel says, "See? Ezekiel 18:19-20 indicates that guilt for sin is not transferable, but the consequences can often touch several generations. "Now therefore, you are cursed, and none of you shall be freed from being slaveswoodcutters and water carriers for the house of my God." At the time the Israelites under Joshua invaded the Promised Land of Canaan, most of the inhabitants rose up in arms against them. We do not know when it happened. You shall make no covenant with them nor show mercy to them. 12 Saul said, Listen now, son of Ahitub.. WebWhich city did Saul destroy when he found that its priests had given David's men provision? And that day Joshua made them woodcutters and water carriers for the congregation and for the altar of the LORD, in the place which He would choose, even to this day. But, he did not. Deuteronomy 19:7-10 Therefore I command you, saying, 'You shall separate three cities for yourself.' So he said, "Whatever you say, I will do for you." But, you would think that after two years you would get the idea that this was not breaking. The Lord told them they had made a commitment to these people and they had to stand by it. So, it is very likely that these men were murdered both as retribution and as sacrifices to some pagan god to spite the God of the Bible, and therefore, Israel. "There was a famine in the days of King David for three years, year after year. Exodus 21:12-13 "He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death. So you shall not pollute the land where you are [this is very important]; for blood defiles the land, and no atonement can be made for the land, for the blood that is shed on it, except by the blood of him who shed it. So he did to them, and delivered them out of the hand of the children of Israel, so that they did not kill them. This is what we have to learnunderstanding the distinction between guilt for sin, and the lingering effects of sin. WebTranslation Details for 2 Samuel 21:1 Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David enquired of the LORD. King Saul (and his house?) The people of the land stand for our spiritual enemiesour human nature, this world, and Satan the Devil. He allowed his actions to be dictated by the Gentile principle of retributionvengeancerather than God's law on such matters. Then they asked for a king, and God gave them Saul son of Kish, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, for forty years. September 01 2013 Gave 7 of Saul's sons to the Gibeonites. They did what is recalled in verses 3 through 6 above. Some interesting similarities to New Testament times occur to me: The fact that David made a covenant with Jonathan regarding Jonathans house (1 Sam 20:14-16), would take precedence over all other reasons not to give up Mephibosheth, I would suppose. What might he have done? When this righteous ruler turned to God, the Lord showed him that arrogant error of his predecessor. Saul tried to get back his throne from God by doing what he thought was right, what he thought was zealous for God, by getting rid of the foreignersincluding the Gibeonitesthat were among them. Finally the light came on, and David said, "I had better ask what is going on here. 1 Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David enquired of the LORD. by LeRoy Gardenier And King David rolled over and let this happen. At most it was about ten miles awaynot very far at all. Share David was Born Mar 2, 2022 A three-year famine occurs as a result of Sauls attack on the Gibeonites Mar 2, 2022. Why did God allow the Gibeonites to put to death seven of Sauls sons? One of the things He specifically mentions is famine, which happens to be the third sealphysical famine, but we remember from Amos that there is a spiritual famine as well. They do what their flesh tells them to dowhat Satan inspires them to want to doand they do it. 4. We can't withstand them. Then, pray for all you are worth so that your relationship with God and Jesus Christ is strong when the famine hits. It did not come the next week, or the next month, or the month after that, all through the summer and into the fall holy days. He resolved properlynot without a lot of death, with 70,000 dead in that plague, but at least he had the repentant attitude by the time it was over. Even though the avenger of blood could kill the person if he caught him before he arrived at the city of refugewhat this verse is saying, here, is that if the nation follows through, and enlarges the lands by obeying God, He will designate more cities of refuge so that they are closer. They made their dust-covered clothes to look worn and ragged as if they had been on the road for many days, even months. WebDavid serves Saul with music on his harp Nov 24, 1025. ( v.1 ) So God sent a famine to punish a kingdom for something that a former king supposedly did. But it does not say so here in so many words. And the Gibeonites said to him, "We will have no silver or gold from Saul or from his house, nor shall you kill any man in Israel for us." In Rizpahs case, her husband, King Saul, broke his promise that the Israelites would spare the Gibeonites in battle; he ordered the Israelites to annihilate them. Even their empty wine skins were completely dried up and cracked. Deceit and delusion are powerful spiritual weapons of destruction but they pale in potency compared to the creative and edifying Word of God come alive by faith in believers' hearts! He committed colossal sins that whole nations would be held in contempt for. Ezekiel 18:19-20 Yet you say, 'Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?' Joshua and that generation did not do their entire job, and so they were stuck. The historical narrative of King David is drawing to a close. It shows you just how far things had sunk in the land. And she did not allow the birds of the air to rest on them by day nor the beasts of the field by night. I will break the pride of your power; I will make your heavens like iron and your earth like bronze. Ezekiel 18 makes it clear that God punishes people for their own iniquity. We do not know how long before II Samuel 21 this incident happened. All answers are REVIEWED and MODERATED. I haven't been keeping up on things. SERIES INTRODUCTION Then they went back and took Ai. & "Take heed that you be not deceived." Spiritual virtues and qualities are largely unseen yet are more real and potent in lasting effects than the most formidable nuclear pile. Then, I am sure, he started to think about other things that were happening, and he started to make some reforms in himself. Nearly two-thirds of American professing Christians believe that their Savior sinned. That would be a town in Benjamin just north of Jerusalem. Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. WebSaul, Israel's first king thought he knew better than God. 3. They were a group of Amorites. Had him over to the palace a few times." This meant the latter harvest has passed, and maybe another month or so went by. Time to retire!" Another thing that God said to do was not done. They have a discussion in the next few verses, and many Israelites want to go ahead and kill these Gibeonites for what they did. Lets read about David avenging the Gibeonites in 2 Samuel 21:1-14: 1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year. Why so? Or as the Gibeonites said Saul consumed them and tried to destroy them a people Israel had entered into a covenant with 400 years earlier. And with what shall I make atonement, that you may bless the inheritance of the LORD?" Let me ask God about this. Perhaps if I go and kill all the Gibeonites like Joshua was supposed to do, maybe God will let me back into the chair.". Wherever he turned, he harassed them. Psalm 34:4-10 I sought the LORD, and He heard me, and delivered me from all my fears. A good answer provides new insight and perspective. I will do it." Now that we have established that there was a horrible massacre at some point in the past, remember there was sin, and there was a crime committed. Saul agreed, and off he went. It says that they were Saul's sons. Share And David sought the face of the Lord. Saul also had sound state reasons for his action, for the Gibeonites were occupying an enclave in the very The Gibeonites joined in the fight against the Philistines B. Except for verse 21, there is very little mention of God in the whole episode. For the Gibeonites, their wily guile and deception gained them survival and nothing more. It is not pretty when we allow the people of the land to dictate to us. God took the initiative in this matter, by afflicting the nation of Israel with a famine because the house of Saul had put the Gibeonites to death. God sees behind the scenes. He was not thinking spiritually. WebThe Philistines decided not to attack D. God gave Saul three options to choose from as he went out against the Philistines. God did not perform a miracle to end this famine after these men were executed. Two years is a long time. This does not make any sense. Hebrews 11 exhibits a whole chapter of men and women just like us who, despite their humanity and frequent foibles, fought the good fight of faith and were victorious in the end through the grace of God. Now, turn to the episode of King David, which we introduced. Notice God declares that the bloodguilt was not just on Saul, but also his house. Then they replied, It was Saul who planned to destroy us, to keep us from having any place at all in Israel. That generation had begun to pass. Share When God called Saul to be king, Israel was on the verge of collapse. During the time of the judges, the Israelites had repeatedly turned away, lea Once again, God's anointed was compelled to humble himself and his nation before a delegation of these servile Gibeonites. But, the big thing was that he did not consult God about what he should do about it. In other words, we want them to be just like us. 2 Samuel 21:2 At this, David summoned the Gibeonites and spoke to them. What we do inherit of their sin is consequences. II Samuel 21:10-11 Now Rizpah the daughter of Aiah took sackcloth and spread it for herself on the rock, from the beginning of harvest until the late rains poured on them from heaven. Your threshing shall last till the time of vintage, and the vintage shall last till the time of sowing; you shall eat your bread to the full, and dwell in your land safely. We would like to make a covenant with you.". They agree to the death of seven of Saul's descendants. 3:6: "for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life"? But so did David. We still need some more background. Over the years I've urged our Fellowship to check out, investigate and take to heart such biblical alarms. There is a very important difference. They handed their enemies hard, stale, moldy bread and told them it had been freshly baked when they left home. He does not live long past the end of II Samuel. It seems that modern Westerners want their heroes flawed. Yet, because of the long time that has passed since then until now, when the Gibeonites were asked to bring it up, how many of the guilty ones had died? Notice the timing and the manner of the execution. Verse 5 does not say that the guilt of a person extends to his great-great grandchildren. On the other hand, when people do well, like Abraham, and they live God's way of life, this allows God the leeway to show mercy unto thousands of generations of people. Therefore, one of the first things that Joshua and the Israelites do is they allow a big problem to linger in their midst. They buried the bones of Saul and Jonathan his son in the country of Benjamin in Zelah, in the tomb of Kish his father. You can read about them for yourself in the Book of Joshua, chapters nine and ten. WebThis points to their employment in the sanctuary; and possibly may shed some light on the massacre of the Gibeonites by Saul (2 Samuel 21:1). Why did Herod like to listen to John the Baptist, who criticized Herods lifestyle? It's much too heavy any more!" Oh, taste and see that the LORD is good; blessed is the man who trusts in Him! That is the bottom line. For unknown reasons, Joshua and the elders of Israel quickly bit on this proposal. The Rock, his work is perfect, for all his ways are justice. He is beyond us; it does not make any sense. He attempted the genocide of Saul was thirty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned for forty -two years over Israel. Joshua 9:3-6 But when the inhabitants of Gibeon heard what Joshua had done to Jericho and Ai, they worked craftily [remember that], and went and pretended to be ambassadors. WebThe biblical writer confirms this charge by stating that Saul tried to annihilate [ nkah, to inflict a dead blow] them (2 Sam. Ezekiel 18:19-20 indicates that guilt for sin is not transferable, but the consequences can often touch several generations. Jew or gentile? HERALDS OF HOLOCAUST WebThe alliance with the Gibeonites lasted for centuries, until Saul - in his zeal (21, 2) - decided that the ancient covenant was no longer binding. Saul, Israel's first king thought he knew better than God. In effect, what they wanted to do was hang the bodies of Saul's family in Saul's hometown in sight of Jerusalem. WebThese lists are not concerned with the Gibeonites at Gibeon, but with the Benjaminite group which came to settle at Gibeon in the course of time. It must have been a satisfactory solution from Gods point of view, because he sent the rain on the land after the measures had been taken. 20, and still another between Saul and David in 1 Samuel 24. Spiritual virtues and qualities are largely unseen yet are more real and potent in lasting effects than the most formidable nuclear pile. God would have said, "Kill them all!" VERSE 2. Saul killed a lot of people. Turn to Exodus 20 and see that right in the Ten Commandments it sounds like it could mean that sin does travel down the family tree. Only after three days did they discover that their "far-distant" allies were really next-door neighbors! Was John the Baptist conceived via an immaculate conception? Why wasn't I told about this?" David did all this, it seems, off the top of his head. It does not seem so. Deuteronomy 32:4. God revealed that this calamity happened because of "Saul and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites ." He was tired of life, tired of war, tired of all the politics, tired of all the rebellion, tired of Joab. Deep and long lasting trouble for both parties - both the Israelites and the Gibeonites - was the fruit of this clever, but calamitous deception. I Samuel 14:52 Now there was fierce war with the Philistines all the days of Saul. Web2 Samuel 21:2 indicates that King Saul pursued the Gibeonites and sought to kill them off "in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah" (2 Samuel 21:5). Moreover you shall take no ransom for the life of a murderer who is guilty of death, but he shall surely be put to death [he cannot buy his way out]. God did not necessarily overlook all their sins, but He certainly forgave them. Something is wrong, David. Think about this for a moment. Only in one sense, there was a fall of man, but certainly not in the traditional sense. 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